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Article:
 Non-Extractive Parsing for XML
Subject: Many misunderstandings...
Date: 2004-05-23 10:57:14
From: mweiher
Response to: Many misunderstandings...

So Java is broken...tell me something I don't know ;-)


MPWXmlKit isn't implemented in Java, and the examples posted in the article aren't Java either...so how does Java enter into the equation?


Marcel


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  • Many misunderstandings...
    2004-05-23 11:41:15 Brian Ewins [Reply]

    It enters because that's what Jimmy was writing about - a java replacement for a java API. Quoting the article:


    "Yet most string-to-data conversion macros or functions, e.g. atoi, atof and Java's parseInt assume tokens in the "extractive" sense. To support the new "non-extractive" tokenization, one can create a mirror set of functions, e.g. ne_atoi, ne_atof and ne_parseInt (ne stands for non-extractive). "


    thats why I put quotes around "Java's parseInt" in the previous reply - I'd spotted your stuff was in Objective-C, I know you can do better :)


    In java even the supposedly high-performance 'standard' APIs (like SAX) use 'String' everywhere, and so can't be zero-copy like Jimmy's proposal; we have to resort to other hacks - eg I wrote a SAX parser once that used a ternary tree-based StringPool for element/attribute names, it massively reduced the number of strings being created - most parsers use java's String.intern() to pool strings instead, which creates masses of garbage to collect.


    Anyway I think I've written enough replies to this article... back to work...

    • Many misunderstandings...
      2004-05-23 13:37:45 mweiher [Reply]

      "It enters because that's what Jimmy was writing about - a java replacement for a java API. Quoting the article:"


      Huh?? He talks about XML/string parsing in general, not about Java in particular. Certainly the references to atoi(), lex, Macros and C are a pretty strong hint that it's not just Java we're talking about here...


      But not really important, I think we understand each other :-))


      Cheers,


      Marcel


      • Many misunderstandings...
        2004-06-22 12:57:15 jimmy_z [Reply]

        Marcel,


        We (XimpleWare) just released our XML processing software and it is at vtd-xml.sf.net. I would like to personally invite you to take a look. Your input and suggestions are very welcome.


        Cheers
        Jimmy


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