Article:		Making Web Services Work at Amazon
Subject:		SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
Date:		2004-02-03 06:06:48
From:		Juan Carlos Gonzalez
Response to: SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
Hi guys, our company has just started the merchant integration process with Amazon, we are a microsoft shop using .net framework. It was brought to our attention the Amazon won't support the use of this platform to work with their web services. Do you know of any SOAP product that runs on a MIcrosoft 2000 server that we can use to interact with them? We are pretty new in the .net enviroment/SOAP functionality. Thanks

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• SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
  2004-02-11 21:43:04 David Reynolds [Reply]
  
  >>Do you know of any SOAP product that runs on a MIcrosoft 2000 server that we can use to interact with them?

  
  WASH from wrinklebrain.com (as Rich Z mentioned above) looks like it might be right for you, providing you can handle the XML generation. I had thought that might be the hard part, but then after looking closer I suspect the real challenge is in tracking submissions and responses, and not dropping _any_ of them... wrinklebrain has both win32 and a linux solution, but if you call them, it sounds like the future of the linux offering isn't that good.

  
  Myself, I'm going to doggedly try to roll my own, but it looks like this will be an unpleasant two months. BTW, I understand that the initial provided soap wrapper perl mod was quite buggy, and I'm underwhelmed that the current one is still dated from the begining of the service rollout (July 2002).
  
  

  • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
    2004-03-13 10:22:04 Sean Doyle [Reply]
    
    Building a highly reliable and trustworthy SOAP framework for Amazon is somewhat tricky, and you are correct, tracking the entire process workflow is crucial to success.

    
    The decision to build or buy should factor in, features, time to market, complexity, testing/certification and maintenance going forward. The Amazon platform is evolving, albeit at a measured pace, so if you do choose to build over buy you will need to update it occasionaly to comply with new features and SLAs. Make sure that you factor this in before making your decision.

    
    <saleson>For more information on our WASH product and a demo, feel free to give us a call at WrinkleBrain. </saleson>
    
    

• SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
  2004-02-06 08:09:51 Matt Eggertson [Reply]
  
  Hey, I am in the same boat as Juan Carlos Gonzalez, my company has just started the merchant integration process as well in the .net framework with little luck. I admit I have very limited experience with soap and web services and have spent the last week beating my head against the wall trying to make heads or tails of half the information on the Amazon integration website.

  
  Any help or guidance would be great

  
  -Thanks

  
  
  
  

  • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
    2004-02-19 08:32:21 Juan Carlos Gonzalez [Reply]
    
    Hey Matt, I have found an easy way to create the xml feed to Amazon, I generated classes based on the xsd files, and then use the serialize method.
    My problem now is in communicating with Amazon, their support is worthless, I'm getting an unauthorize message. They said I have to force .net to preauthenticate, I have tried so many different ways with no results. Are you there yet?
    
    
    • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
      2004-03-13 10:24:35 Sean Doyle [Reply]
      
      .NET preauthentication to comply with Amazon's SOAP framework is indeed tricky. Don't forget that you must also override the DIME encoding methods with SWA compliant methods.
      
      
      • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
        2005-07-14 12:29:32 Schenz [Reply]
        
        I see now that Amazon.com has a DIME version of it's SOAP platform available for Microsoft.NET users. Does anyone have any better examples that the one on the Seller Central help pages?
        
        
        • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
          2005-10-07 16:18:44 Kalbo [Reply]
          
          Hi,

          
          We are new to Amazon merchant Integration and we are using PHP and/or Perl. Unfortunately, we cannot see any resource that would help us in our integration.

          
          As of now, and after some weeks already, we are still trying to find a way to connect to the SOAP server (merchant) of Amazon.

          
          We tried using NuSOAP and PEAR::Soap in PHP, and tried as well SOAP::Lite and HTTP::POST in Perl to no avail. There seems to be a deadlock somewhere that we couldn't establish a connection. Btw, we have no problem connecting with unsecure connection (not HTTPS).

          
          Will anyone there could be of help?

          
          Thank you.

          
          
          
          

          • SOAP Bloat and poor uptime
            2006-06-19 14:02:16 Lily06 [Reply]
            
            Hi,

            
            I am in similar situation as Kalbo. Has anyone figure out a way to do it in perl after Oct, 2005?

            
            Any help is greatly appreciated.