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SVG: A Sure Bet
Subject: Anyone can create Flash files
Date: 2003-07-17 18:35:37
From: Paul Prescod
Response to: Anyone can create Flash files
You are right. I am wrong. I thought that it was necessary to use Macromedia's Flash Writer to get Flash files out of Illustrator but now I know that Illustrator also has native support. I am sorry for misrepresenting the situation.


I did not claim that Macromedia was the only company that can generate Flash files. I did claim that any company that does generate Flash files is putting some control of their destiny in Macromedia's hands. If I were Adobe I would vastly prefer to put my faith in the W3C where they have representatives and some degree of control (along with the rest of the community) rather than depending on the goodwill of Macromedia. I suspect that is why they are pouring so much effort into SVG.


And by the way, SVG is licensed in a way that allows competition in all aspects of authoring and delivery but the Flash license is specifically worded to sheild Macromedia from competition. "Pursuant to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a nonexclusive license to use the Specification for the sole purposes of developing Products that output SWF." What if I wanted to use the specification to develop a product that did not output SWF...e.g. a competitive Flash reader?

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  • Anyone can create Flash files
    2003-07-19 09:51:04 cole batten [Reply]

    you:
    " What if I wanted to use the specification to develop a product that did not output SWF...e.g. a competitive Flash reader?"
    me:
    "there are. one comes to mind http://www.swfxxl.com/ . the developer of which spoke at flash forward sf this year and called the normal flash player (but apologized in advance first) 'stupid' when it comes to fullscreen. thats why swfxxl exists. those wacky germans."
    you:
    "If I were Adobe I would vastly prefer to put my faith in the W3C where they have representatives and some degree of control (along with the rest of the community) rather than depending on the goodwill of Macromedia. I suspect that is why they are pouring so much effort into SVG."
    me:
    "does effort in this case equal $$$ to the w3c? also is the 'svg plugin', 'svg player, 'svg support' going to be a huge file size too like it is for the pc/mac/*nix? is that why the w3c likes that too? svg does have its place indeed. as icons supported by the os's gui."





  • Anyone can create Flash files
    2003-07-17 20:00:02 Jason Cunilffe [Reply]

    Here's an intreresting toolkit I just heard about which reflects the hybrid needs and environment of vector grahics users and developers


    """Kinesis Software announces the release of it's latest product: KineticFusion, a great advance in rich graphical content management. KineticFusion is the perfect fusion of new technologies for the Web. For the first time, SWF files, the native format for Macromedia® Flash™ can be fully represented in a new XML vocabulary, Rich Vector Markup Language, or RVML. Our processing engine can decompile SWF to RVML and compile RVML back into native SWF format. All resources, whether ActionScript, sound, video, or images can be extracted and inserted, SWF files can be viewed and manipulated using external development tools, versioned, stored, or translated to SVG allowing users to author SVG applications using any Flash™ authoring environment.


    Written in Java, KineticFusion allows you to use pure XML technologies to create dynamic interactive animations viewable on any browser that support the Flash™ plugin. Flash™ authoring tools can be used to create interfaces that can then be translated to SVG.


    The KineticFusion product and available documentation are made available for free download under a Freeware license."""


    http://www.kinesissoftware.com/index.html

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