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 The Vanishing Image: XHTML 2 Migration Issues
Subject: Use of Conditional Comments
Date: 2003-07-04 14:37:27
From: Florian Bauer
Response to: Use of Conditional Comments

I double-checked my example. It does indeed work, at least with the german version of IE 6. I have no idea whether this hack will work with any other version of IE. What version of IE did you use for testing?

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  • Use of Conditional Comments
    2003-07-04 20:50:34 MikeyC Cacciottolo

    IE6 sp1 - english running on Windows NT &
    IE6 sp1 - english running on Windows XP


    Here is the exact example I used (and I just double-checked it):


    <!-- [if !IE] -->
    i can see this in Internet Explorer
    <!-- <![endif] -->



    • 2010-07-09 09:11:56 virtual receptionist

      Need to check your DOCTYPE

    • Use of Conditional Comments
      2003-07-05 04:38:08 Florian Bauer

      That is strange:
      Here is my example:


      <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
      <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="de" lang="de">
      <head>
      </head>
      <body>


      <!--[if !IE]> -->
      IE doesn't see this.
      <!-- <![endif] -->


      </body>
      </html>


      I checked this with ie6 on winxp, and ie5.5 on win98, both in the german version.
      I also tried your example and the conditional comments do also work there.
      strange...
      cheers
      Florian

      • Use of Conditional Comments
        2003-07-06 16:17:35 MikeyC Cacciottolo

        I just realized something else. The example we've been playing with thus far uses a transitional doctype as it doesn't validate using a strict doctype. Something about character data not being allowed there according to the validator.


        XHTML 2 won't have a transitional mode (as far as I'm aware), so it seems that you can't use conditional comments anyways to deal with IE's broken Object support.


        Please correct me if I'm wrong.

        • Re: Use of Conditional Comments
          2003-10-16 18:09:25 Lenny D

          "I just realized something else. The example we've been playing with thus far uses a transitional doctype as it doesn't validate using a strict doctype. Something about character data not being allowed there according to the validator."


          XHTML does not allow character data at the <body> level. It must be within a block level element such as

          .



      • Use of Conditional Comments
        2003-07-05 11:25:34 MikeyC Cacciottolo

        I've isolated the problem. Your original example was:
        <!-- [if !IE] -->
        <object></object>
        <!-- <![endif] -->


        Your follow-up example was (notice there is no space before the opening bracket of the if statement):


        <!--[if !IE] -->
        <object></object>
        <!-- <![endif] -->


        Your second example is indeed correct. Why do trhings have to be so confusing ;)


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